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Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 23-24 Season

Posted: April 11th, 2025, 10:13 pm
by pacers
Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 23-24 Season
The traditional thinking goes that you either want players who efficiently use a lot of possessions (and it’s okay if they’re not possession positive) or players who pet you a lot of possessions through rebounds, stocks, and not turning the ball over (and it’s okay if they don’t score a lot of points).

Typically we find that players who use a lot of possessions use them efficiently:
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I wanted to look at which players at each position:
  • Score efficiently at volume
  • Shoot a lot but inefficiently
  • Don’t shoot but when they do it’s efficient
  • Don’t shoot and for good reason
To make the outliers more clear, I compared each player to other players of their position by:
  • Calculating their PPP and Possessions Used
  • Calculating the mean and standard deviation of each metric for each position
  • Percentile ranking vs other players at their position based on a normal distribution
This is a fairly safe assumption as the curves for each metric are close to normal (nice job Ashes):
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PG: Possessions Used vs PPP
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Score efficiently at volume:
  • Luka Doncic
  • Kyrie Irving
  • Markelle Fultz
  • Steph Curry
Shoot a lot but inefficiently:
  • Kris Dunn
  • Ja Morant
  • Kira Lewis Jr
  • Kemba Walker
Don’t shoot but when they do it’s efficient:
  • Jose Alvarado
  • Langston Galloway
  • Tyus Jones
Don’t shoot and for good reason:
  • Scotty Pippen Jr
  • Lonzo Ball

SG: Possessions Used vs PPP
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Score efficiently at volume:
  • Shabazz Muhammad
  • Tyreke Evans
  • Jamal Murray
  • Buddy Hield
Shoot a lot but inefficiently:
  • RJ Barrett
  • Jalen Suggs
  • Cade Cunningham
Don’t shoot but when they do it’s efficient:
  • Luke Kennard
  • Jimmy Butler
  • Caris Levert
  • Jeremy Lamb
Don’t shoot and for good reason:
  • Talen Horton-Tucker
  • Matisse Thybulle

SF: Possessions Used vs PPP
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Score efficiently at volume:
  • Otto Porter Jr
  • Kevin Durant
  • Myles Turner
Shoot a lot but inefficiently:
  • Harrison Barnes
  • Michael Porter Jr
  • Brandon Miller
  • Herbert Jones
Don’t shoot but when they do it’s efficient:
  • Ryan Anderson
Don’t shoot and for good reason:
  • Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
  • Maurice Harkless
  • OG Anunoby

PF: Possessions Used vs PPP
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Score efficiently at volume:
  • Aaron Gordon
  • Kevin Durant
  • Obi Toppin
  • Domantas Sabonis
  • Kristaps Porzingis
  • Rui Hachimura
Shoot a lot but inefficiently:
  • Paolo Banchero
  • Zion Williamson
  • Kyle Kuzma
Don’t shoot but when they do it’s efficient:
  • Jonathan Isaac
Don’t shoot and for good reason:
  • Terrence Jones
  • Reggie Perry
  • Jarred Vanderbilt

C: Possessions Used vs PPP
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Score efficiently at volume:
  • Nikola Jokic
  • Karl-Anthony Towns
  • Deandre Ayton
Shoot a lot but inefficiently:
  • Mark Williams
  • Tarik Black
Don’t shoot but when they do it’s efficient:
  • Dwight Powell
  • Spencer Hawes
Don’t shoot and for good reason:
  • Tacko Fall
  • John Henson
  • Nerlens Noel
All Positions Aggregate
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Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 22-23 Season

Posted: April 11th, 2025, 10:24 pm
by jwoo
Very cool to visualize

Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 22-23 Season

Posted: April 11th, 2025, 11:54 pm
by GX.
Super cool and all but your metrics must be on the Fritz or something because MPJ is goated

Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 23-24 Season

Posted: April 12th, 2025, 10:10 am
by Tyler
This is sick Tong!

Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 23-24 Season

Posted: April 12th, 2025, 10:10 am
by Tyler
Also Deandre Ayton 👀

Volume vs Efficiency Outliers by Position: 23-24 Season

Posted: May 7th, 2025, 12:06 pm
by quady
Grade: 825 RP